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By: clicheguevara

clicheguevara — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:59:49 +0000

Phil:

These are only primaries (or caucus in Iowa; not sure of the difference), so from what i understand only paid up democrats can vote in the democratic race. Most paid-up democrats are less racist than average americans, i expect.

It is actually a really interesting event in world history though, a black man could be running for President of America, where 60 years ago apartheid was effectively the case across many states, and where black people have been effective second class citizens since the Emancipation Proclomation.

By: clicheguevara

clicheguevara — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:56:56 +0000

No, cos America is fundamentally racist.

By: Peter

Peter — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:48:18 +0000

I know that. The claim is that:

a) there are swing states
b) these same swing states are the states that would not elect a black guy

I am merely saying that I would not have expected the states that would not elect a black guy to be swing states. Instead, I would have expected the states who would not elect a black guy to be safe republican.

DYS?

By: Phil

Phil — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:01:12 +0000

Interesting though that Iowa is 97% white and bible bashing but they voted for him. Have just listened to his victory speech, he’s very charismatic and VERY American.

By: clicheguevara

clicheguevara — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:48:25 +0000

Yeah, “swing states” does sort of imply that they could go either way, Peter…

By: Willy

Willy — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:12:33 +0000

I would imagine that swing states ain’t gonna vote for any darned women either. Which leaves Edwards, who is debatably the most progressive of the Democrats. Don’t know whether this just increases the chances of a Republican victory.
I still find it incredible to believe that the most popular Republican in Iowa is a creationist, homophobic loony. Although, it seems that not all the strong Republican candidates pushed hard in Iowa.
The swing states have nothing to do with New Orleans jazz, and are the marginal ones that could go either way , so they’re definitely not Republican regardless.

By: Peter

Peter — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:50:00 +0000

I know fuck all about US politics, but are the swing States the ones that ipso facto wouldn’t vote for a non-white person? I would have thought that those States would be Republican regardless of the Democrat candidate.

Of course, like I say I know hardly anything about US politics.

By: Ste For Sure

Ste For Sure — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:43:40 +0000

ol’ obama doesnt seem too hot foreign policy wise. I think progressive minded people assume that we should like him cos, well..hes black. He has stood back from making any commitments regarding getting out of Iraq (even vague ones) and is a full on Israel nut. So I doubt the middle east will get much better with him as worlds most powerful man.